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Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert

From: "Nanci" <NanciY@attbi.com>
To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
Date: Sat
13 Jul 2002 21:37:42 -0400
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Ok, I hear what you're saying Joe, I do and have thought that they hurried
the album cuz they were afraid if they took to long then the "fans" might
cool off and they were on a roll and yes the money was rolling in.
I have listened to their 3 cd's alot lately and the gradual flow into <for
want of a better word> softer music is very evident.  Although Bullets, FF
and WGMB are rougher they definately are not the Hard sound from MOP.  But
that could be cuz He Scott S. is not so angry?  No need to anialate his so
called enemies?   Don't know the answer to that one.  I still after
listening to the cd's find the music itself very good. But yes it will be
interesting to see if they will keep softening or pick it back up.

Another thought, will Scott's injuries play a part in how the next cd comes
out? or will the fact that they might be looking for a new label? {atleast
to my understanding}because he got a bad rap from MTV over it and some of
his credibility was tarnished.  We will just have to wait and see.
Nanci
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Earles" <earles@attbi.com>
To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert


> Oh, no doubt the music is good but it's all too obvious that Stapp and
> Tremonti's writing style have been heavily influenced by their celebrity
and
> every album has gravitated a little more toward writing songs that will
pull
> big paychecks and further away from simply writing songs.
>
> Another thing that irked me was how they made a point of letting us know
how
> little time it took to write "Weathered" like it was some sort of benefit
or
> something I should be impressed with. I write songs. I could write 11
songs
> in 3 weeks, too. Would they be any good? Probably, but would they be
better
> if I wrote them, stepped back, came back to them in a few more weeks and
> started fine-tuning them? Absolutely. Creed opted for the paycheck and
> against putting out the best record they could this time and the result is
a
> bunch of low-key cookie-cutter "written to hit the charts in Rock AND Pop
> market" types of songs without the same level of emotion that was evident
in
> the first two albums. I just hope that the next album is better, that's
> all...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nanci" <NanciY@attbi.com>
> To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
>
>
> > As much as I'd like to say otherwise I really can't see them releasing
any
> > of those 3. FF and WGMB are two of my favorites,  like I said before,
> since
> > I never hear them on the local stations anyway, does it really matter if
> > Creed sucks up to the masses?  At least their music is GOOD.
> > Nanci
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Earles" <earles@attbi.com>
> > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> >
> >
> > > Bullets, Freedom Fighter and WGMB. It's all downhill from there....
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lee Reed" <creedyrn4ever@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> > >
> > >
> > > > yeah, but name a tune on weathered that DOESN'T fit that category...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Joe Earles" <earles@attbi.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The New Improved Less Lame List
<creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > > >To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> > > > >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:59:51 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >That's a good choice, even if it does serve to drive another nail
> into
> > > > >their
> > > > >POP-Crossover Coffin...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "*Kate* ." <sky65@hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
> > > > >Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:57 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Their set was scheduled for 9pm-10:35, according to the security
> > guard
> > > > >in
> > > > > > front of us.  They took the stage at about 9:05 and ended at
11pm.
> > > From
> > > > > > what I've read about the earlier concerts I don't think the set
> list
> > > was
> > > > > > altered from the first dates.  The set was pretty much every
track
> > > from
> > > > > > weathered and then the songs that had been released from MOP and
> HC.
> > > > > >   Oh, and if anyone's interested, Scott did say that the next
> single
> > > was
> > > > > > going to be "Don't Stop Dancing."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                            -Kate
> > > >
> > > >
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